Ago ir arrol, hogy szerinte az atomenergiat tamogatok indolatosabban 
tamadjak az ellenzoket mint forditva. Gondolom ezt a megjegyzest 
elsosorban az utobbi idoben a KORNYESZ-en megjelent,a Greenpeacerol szolo 
irasok valtottak ki. 
	Egy kicsit vitatkoznek ezzel a tetellel: az 
atomenergia tamogatoi soha nem probalkoznanak azzal hogy megekadalyozzak 
a Greenpeace vagy a kornyezetvedok egy-egy akciojat, ellenben a GP. 
aktivistai megprobaltak elallni a szerelveny utjat - kerdem en ki akkor 
az indulatosabb. Magam is eleg indulatosan nyilatkoztam az ugyrol, de ez 
egyszeruen az emberi hulyeseg feletti duhomnek koszonheto. En is tudok 
egy csomo olyan teruletet, ahol Paksot kritika erhetne es lehetne 
javitani a dolgokon, azonban ezeknek van tenyalapja is, mig a GP 
tiltakozas mero hulyeseg volt. Olyan ez mint egy felteteles reflex, ha 
egyesek meghalljak az atom szot, mar gyulik a nyal a szajukban, nyilik a 
bicska a zsebukben es a kezuk automatikusan elkezdi gyartani a tiltakozo 
plakatokat stb. 
	Vegzetul szeretnem feltenni ismet egy korabbi kerdesemet: tud 
valaki olyan elkepzelesrol, amellyel hosszabb tavon is meg lehet oldan 
Mo. vagy altalaban a vilag energiaellatasat. (tovabbi feltatalak, hogy 
atomenergiat ne hasznaljon es a megvalositas ne keruljon sokba)

Udv		Xux


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ezen a helyen kivagtam egy, az 'atomvonat' elleni magyarorszagi 
tiltakozasra felhivo  irast.  mivel nem kaptam idoben a szerzotol 
valaszt a moderalasi kerelmemre (estig vartam), az eredeti 
formajaban nem engedhettem at. 

valamint, egy masikat is kivagtam, ami egy, a temaban nyilatkozo 
kornyezetvedelmi szervezet szavait idezte, igen cinikus stilusban.  
kerlek, a temaval kapcsolatos velemenyeiteket olyan, kulturalt 
stilusban fogalmazzatok meg, ami SENKIT sem serthet.  ne felejtsetek
el, hogy a KORNYESZ egy igen szeles kornek a foruma.  az irasaitokat 
azzal a tudattal fogalmazzatok meg, hogy az is a KORNYESZ olvasoja 
lehet, akirol velemenyt irtok.

koszonettel,
moderator  (diana)
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>I have been invited by the National Science Foundation to 
negotiate
> >an agreement that would provide funding for several 
post-doctoral
> >and pre-doctoral fellowships beginning in September 1996 to 
work on
> >global environmental assessment and policy research in a 
program
> >based here at Harvard University.  The program is described in
> >slightly more detail in the attached announcement; more 
information
> >is available on request.  I had hoped to know for certain by now
> >whether or not we have this funding, but because of the 
government
> >shut-down I do not.  I hope this question will be resolved by late
> >February or early March. Unfortunately, this is late for the 1996-
> >97 fellowship season.  I am therefore distributing today the
> >attached notification of the potential fellowships.  While the
> >uncertainty is haunting us, we are very hopeful that we will have
> >an exciting assessment program beginning in Fall 1996 and 
several
> >fellows will be part of it.  We ask that you encourage good people
> >to apply.  Please let me know if you have any questions.
> >
> >
> >William C. Clark
> >Center for Science and International Affairs
> >Kennedy School of Government
> >Harvard University
> >79 JFK Street
> >Cambridge, MA   02138
> >Tel 617-495-3981
> >Fax 617-495-3981
> >Email 
> >
> >
> >   FELLOWSHIPS IN GLOBAL ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT 
AND POLICY
> >
> >Center for Science and International Affairs
> >John F. Kennedy School of Government, Harvard University, 
1996-
> >1997
> >
> >Eligibility
> >The Center for Science and International Affairs offers both pre-
> >doctoral and advanced research fellowships for one year, with a
> >possibility for renewal.  Applications for research fellowships are
> >welcome from recent recipients of the Ph.D. or equivalent 
degree,
> >university faculty members, and employees of governmental,
> >international, and private research institutions who have
> >appropriate professional experience.  Applicants for pre-doctoral
> >fellowships must have passed general examinations prior to
> >appointment.  The selection process gives preference to 
candidates
> >whose expertise and research proposals are compatible with 
CSIA's
> >research agenda for the coming year.  CSIA encourages 
applications
> >from women, minorities, and citizens of all countries.
> >
> >Fellows are generally expected to devote a portion of their time 
to
> >collaborative endeavors.  Research Fellows are expected to 
complete
> >a book, monograph, or other significant publication during their
> >period of residence.  Pre-doctoral fellows are required to
> >contribute to the Center's research agenda as well as to work on
> >their doctoral dissertations.
> >
> >Research Interests
> >The Center is coordinating a major multidisciplinary research
> >program to shape an integrated understanding of global
> >environmental assessment and policy.  Core faculty include 
William
> >Clark and Edward Parson from the Kennedy School of 
Government,
> >Robert Keohane from the Government Department, James 
McCarthy and
> >Michael McElroy from Harvard's natural sciences faculties, 
Sheila
> >Jasanoff from Cornell University, and Jill Jaeger from the
> >International Institute for Applied Systems Analysis in Vienna.  
We
> >are currently negotiating funding that would let us bring together
> >each year for five years a group of at least 5 pre- and post-
> >doctoral program fellows, competitively recruited from the US 
and
> >abroad to study and learn with us about global environmental
> >assessment and policy.  Some of these Fellows may come from 
our own
> >institutions.  But our objective is to bring together in the Center
> >the best and the brightest people from around the world with a
> >commitment to improving global environmental assessment and 
policy.
> >Some of these fellows would come from natural science 
backgrounds,
> >others from the social sciences and professions.  Each fellow will
> >be closely affiliated with one of the "integrated assessment"
> >research program's faculty members, and will work closely with 
that
> >individual while a member of the CSIA.
> >
> >A small Working Group or Groups, involving Harvard faculty and
> >Fellows, will meet weekly and informally to work actively on
> >collaborative activities growing out of the fundamental research
> >program, and to direct the collaborative production of major
> >program research products (books, monographs, etc.).
> >
> >Bi-weekly Research Seminars will bring together program 
researchers
> >and Fellows, and other researchers actively working on 
questions of
> >global change assessment and policy. These Seminars will 
present
> >research work in progress, to permit its enrichment and critique
> >from a variety of disciplinary perspectives, and to flesh out its
> >implications for the basic integrating themes of the research
> >program.
> >
> >Stipend
> >CSIA offers stipends of $28,000 to research fellows and $16,500 
to
> >pre-doctoral fellows, together with health insurance.  Office 
space
> >and supplies, personal computers, and access to Harvard 
University
> >libraries and other facilities will be provided.  The Center hopes
> >to be able to offer 4-5 fellowships in 1996-97, subject to the
> >successful outcome of negotiations with the federal government.
> >
> >Application Procedures
> >By February 15, 1996, prospective applicants should submit a one
> >page letter of interest stating their major research project or
> >dissertation prospectus with reference to its relevance to global
> >environmental assessment and policy.  Interested candidates 
should
> >indicate whether they are applying for a pre- or post-doctoral
> >fellowship and whether they are seeking full or partial funding
> >from CSIA.  Applicants who have, or hope to, secure portable
> >fellowships that they would like to bring to CSIA are encouraged
> >and should indicate their intentions in their application letter.
> >
> >Letters should be sent to William C. Clark, Harvard University,
> >Center for Science and International Affairs, 79 JFK Street,
> >Cambridge, MA   02138 Fax: 617-495-8963; Email:
> .  Applicants will be notified by March 
1,
> >1996 whether there will definitely be funding fore these 
positions,
> >and whether comprehensive applications will be required.  
Decisions
> >will be announced by April 15, 1996.

Kedves Kornyesz!
A fenti cikk inkabb politikai, igy ha a hozzaszolasomat Diana
politikainak, s nem a kornyesz-hez illonek tekinti, akkor hagyja
ki nem lehet egy szo sem ellene.

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a kornyeszet ugyanugy politika, mint biologia vagy gazdasagtan.
ha egy kornyezetrol indult vita a politikahoz vezet, az ide tartozik.
diana
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A nagy cegek elleni Meadows cikk-ben fejtegeti Meadows, hogy a
nagy cegek, hogyan fenyegetik a demokraciat. Ezzel tokeletesen
egyettertek, s ezt Magyarorszagra is el lehet mondani, talan
valamivel feketebb, korrupcio izubb valfaja folyik nallunk.

En a demokraciat fenyegeto masik nagy veszelyre figyelmeztetnek,
(ami osszefugg valamelyest az elozovel): az allampolgaroknak is
kotelesseguk kellene hogy legyen, hogy figyelemmel kiserjek az
allam dolgait, ismerjek a lehetseges alternativakat, 
s csak azokat kellene valasztani hagyni, 
akik legalabb egy minimalis ismeretekkel rendelkeznek az aktualis helyzetrol,
ismerik a jeloltek programjat es igy tovabb. Ez meg tavolabb
all a realitasoktol tudom, de enelkul a demokracia is csak karikatura. 
Udv Gyuri

kedves wolf guri!

jo a kesleltetesem, mi?  hetekkel ezelott kerdeztel a zold 
adorendszerrol.  akkor sem volt idom valaszolni, most is csak azert, 
mert el kellett egy repulojegyem egy nappal halasztani, igy hirtelen 
nyertem egy fel napot; es epp a kezembe kerult az a Kornyezet es 
Fejlodes (K&F) szam, amiben ki van dolgozva egy zold koltsegvetes-
tervezet. 
 
A K&F V/8. szamaban egy reszletes zold koltsegvetes-tervezet van.  
Csak egy szoval a zold koltsegvetesek vedelmeben:  a regressziv 
adorendszerek, vagyis pl. a jovedelemre epulo ado, alapoveto hibaja, 
hogy a 'kivanando'-t negativan oszonzik.  tehat, minel tobbet keres 
az ember -- annal tobb adot fog fizetnmi; hat a frasznak lesz erdeke 
egyre tobbet keresni.  ezzel szemben a regressziv adok a 
nem-kivanando dolgokat adoztatjak meg: pl. a szennyezest.  tehat az 
otlet csupan  gazdasagi szempontokat figyelembe veve is progressziv.  

majd talan nehany het vagy honap mulva a tobbieknek (pl. Gacs Ivan) 
is fogok tudni valaszolni...............

:-)

diana