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+ - Re: THE MOST SOVIET EX-KGB INFORMANT: PIDOR VOROBIEFF F (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

In article >,  (Igor Chudov) writ
es:

>BK ) wrote:
>* >
>* Yes Mr. Vorobieff, communism, czarism, bolshevism and even Russian Orthodoxy
>* were all good for the Russian people at some time, but unfortunately these
>* various Russian isms were an anethema to the nations and peoples enslaved
>* by these Russian isms.  Russia now has an opportunity to start out afresh
>* and abandon her chauvinism and imperialistic ambitions as espoused by many
>* of her politicians like Rutskoi, Zhirinovsky, Lebed and a slew of others
>* and truly commit herself to the path of respecting her neighbors and
>* developing democracy and economic prosperity for her own people in her
>* own country using her own resources rather than robbing, exploiting and
>* oppressing her neighbors.  If Russia is really committed to democracy then
>* she has nothing to fear from NATO, the United States, which is giving her
>* economic aid, or any other democratic country.  Dan K.
>
>What the FUCK does your post have to do with Mr. Vorobieff?

Dear Igor,

Is this some kind of a rhetorical question? The homosexual liar Pyotr Vorobiev
has attracted enough negative attention to become the topic of this thread by:

* getting into numerous flame wars all over soc.culture.*;

* forging obscenities and spam in the names of his flame war "enemies";

* complaining about his own forgeries to the enemies' sysadmins, employers,
  family members and professors.

For example, I've recently received the following private e-mail about him:

]To: "Dr. Dimitri Vulis" >
]Subject: Re: Vorobiev's net-abuse
]From: "@@@" <@@@> [omitted to protect the victim's privacy]
]
]-- [ From: @@@ * EMC.Ver #2.5.02 ] --
]
]Dear Dimitri,
]   I am glad to announce my ISP recreated my account after
]one week investigation. My email address remains the same.
]  To prove my innocence I had to fax
]tham all the posts from newsgroups where people
]expressed their opinions about Peter Vorobioff. I also
]included some of your mails. BTW, Vadik Polubog, who lives
]in the same province where I live, also supported me
](not that I agree with his opinion about renaming Russia,
]but he's not a bad guy, much better than some other "klauzniki" and
]"donoschiki").  He said he persistently tried to post
]in S.C.R. however his articles were disappearing
]all the time. I said there was a possibility of someone
]cancelling them or expiry terms are short on his
]newsserver. Can it be checked somehow without
]using UNIX ? He uses DOS/Windows, I think.
]  I have another question. How come P.V. is a
]self-proclaimed FAQ keeper of S.C.R. ? Can it
]be changed? What prevents anyone from downloading
]the FAQ and claiming himself as a "leader" in a
]certain group ? I think if they wanna make S.C.R.
]moderated, they should make a separate moderated group,
]like soc.culture.russian.moderated. But I doubt
]such a group would be interesting. (I already
]posted my opinion on the subject).
]  Thanks for support. I suspect that you send some
]really convincing story about P.V. that made my
]postmasters change their minds. They also
]set up a flag, bouncing any mail coming
]from .
]
]Regards,
]@@@

In answer to your question: Pyotr Vorobiev did not write any FAQs. He's simply
reposting without attirbution the various materials he had stolen from the
RusTeX-L archives on . This is plain plagiarism.

In addition to his forgeries and false complaints to sysadmins, Pyotr Vorobiev
writes paranoid slanderous diatribes on news.admin.net-abuse.misc, accusing
netters of being each other's "tentacles" and using derogatory ethnic slurs.

For example, Pyotr Vorobiev has recently called me "rootless cosmopolitan" and
"dandruff-covered louse larva", which are the literal English translations of
the Russian anti-Semitic slurs "bezrodnyj kosmopolit" and "gnida parkhataja".

Back in Moscow, Pyotr Vorobiev was a notorious "stukach" (KGB informer): Pyotr
drank vodka all night with his buddies, trying to provoke them into making
"anti-Soviet statements". In the morning, he denounced them to the KGB, making
up most of his complaints. Ever since the fall of Communism, Pyotr Vorobiev and
his "colleages" have been trying to recreate their beloved Soviet Union on the
Internet. Pyotr Vorobiev's attempts to silence all "politically incorrect"
opinions though forgeries, mailbombings, and content-based false complaints to
sysadmins are typical not of Usenet, but of IRC, where the "ops" use "/kick"
and "/ban" as part of their conversation. It's symptomatic that Pyotr Vorobiev
falsely claims to be a sysadmin and/or a professor at Lehigh University, even
though he's just a graduate student in the Mechanical Engineering and Mechanics
Department there. Comments and suggestions regarding Pyotr Vorobiev's Usenet
forgeries, mailbombings, and other net.abuse may be sent to these people:

Philip A. Blythe        
Forbes T. Brown         
Meng S. Chew            
John P. Coulter         
Terry J. Delph          
Fazil Erdogan           
D. Gary Harlow          
Ronald J. Hartranft     
Stanley Johnson         
Arturs Kalnins          
Jacob Y. Kazakia        
Edward K. Levy          
Antonios Liakopoulos    
Robert A. Lucas         
Alistair K. MacPherson  
Sudhakar Neti           
Herman F. Nied          
John B. Ochs            
Jerzy A. Owczarek       
Tulga M. Ozsoy          
Noel D. Perreira        
Richard Roberts         
Donald O. Rockwell      
Robert G. Sarubbi       
Kenneth N. Sawyers      
George C. Sih           
Charles R. Smith        
Theodore A. Terry       
Dean P. Updike          
Eric Varley             
Arkady S. Voloshin      
J. David A. Walker      
Robert P. Wei            (MEM Chairman)

Public exposure is the most effective defense against a Soviet-style "stukach".

That's why Pyotr Vorobiev is so afraid of the truth being posted about him.

That's why it's so crucial to warn every sysadmin on the Internet that Pyotr
Vorobiev is a liar and a forger, whose false complaints must never be belived.

Alexplore is right: Pyotr Voroviev is truly "the most Soviet ex-KGB informant".

---

<a href="mailto:">Dr. Dimitri Vulis</a>
Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps
+ - Re: THE MOST SOVIET EX-KGB INFORMANT: PIDOR VOROBIEFF F (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

 (A.T.) wrote:

>Subject: Re: 10 forged cancels in various newsgroups
>Date: Sat, 21 Oct 1995 20:26:11 -0400
>In article > you wrote:
>>In article >,
>>Rostyk Lewyckyj > wrote:
>>>
>>>Mr. Vorobieffs attitude and actions in this matter are interesting
>>>to consider, in light of his actions earlier this year. He complained
>>>to our postmaster after I had attempted to redirect some discussions
>>>to soc.culture.russian by posting follow-up postings with a short
>>>addendum stating that this discussion should be in soc.culture.russian
>>>and/or soc.culture.soviet. The posted messages contained some "pithy"
>>>language by Mr. Peter Vorobieff. Mr. Vorobieff also threatened to use
>>>the "cancelmoose" against me.
>>>--Rostyk

>xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

>TO: All people if you want to remain free

>RE: Most Soviet Vorobieff
>        (Pidor Vorobieff)

>The filthy purebred Sovok  informer "stukach"  Pidor Vorobieff wrote lying com
plaints "donosy" on me.

>He is also effeminate, sneaky and back stabbing despite his very loud mouthing
 about "honor" etc.

>Vorobieff, like all sovoks, is just following his family's tradition.

>He can't take the truth... he  lacks honesty, as did the elder sovok Vorobieff
 animal (now dead) that

>sired him by studding that sovok whore that used to suck the cocks of party me
mbers in Moscow for

>herring and vodka and a chance to advance among sovoks, really, the dirty, bri
ght flame red-mouthed, painted slut...

>Vorobieff sucked the dick of the sovok state *before* the fall of  THE SOVOK U
NION, such a

>loyal little boy and student, anything to preserve the STATE OF SOVOK, includi
ng being a "helper" for the KGB.

>Vorobieff described the Chechen struggle for freedom by comparing it with the 
LA riots, calling them "all criminals....

>responsible for all the crime in Russia.." and gives the  OFFICIAL LINE,  and 
cares naught

>for the costs in economic treasure, lives, freedom for he is a dedicated sovie
t, sovok shit, and KGB stooge.

>Vorobieff says that Ukrainians, Byelorusians,  and Russians are the "same peop
le," with a "common history,"

>A familiar, soviet lie and distortion, that tramples on all those peoples and 
scholarship for the sake of a Greater Expansionist Russia, that no one can affo
rd, least of all the Russians.

>Official disinformation that serves to divert an ignorant, brutal and stupid s
oviet public's attention

>from the real problems of the area....

>What Vorobieff was in sovok, he is here...he just feels a little more insecure
 about it,

>but.....

>      * SOVIET IS AS SOVIET DOES *

>Sincerely,

>Alexplore

>PS
>Here is a repost of  how I fell victim of Sovok Agent Pidor Vorobeef:

>xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: NET/ABUSE: SKURRRRRVY SYN BORYA VEYTSMONGOL FROM SOC.CULTURE.SOVIET
>Date: 18 Jun xxxxxx>
>THEY (OF SOVOK) ARE MANY, THE GOOD ARE FEW. THE HORDE OF SOVOK UNION
>IMPERIALISTS ARE INDIVIDUALLY INFERIOR. LIKE THE HEROIC CHECHENS, WE SHALL
>ENDURE UNTIL.......<skip>

>BY THE WAY: ABOUT THAT LYING, GUTLESS, "STUKACH", PRETENTIOUS SHIT, HACK AND
>WANNABEE, WOULD-BE, WRITER, PIDOR VOROBEEF  (HE WROTE NUMEROUS FALSEHOODS,
>BEHIND MY BACK -- HE ACTUALLY TOOK PRUSS' ANTI-SEMITIC  ARTICLE AND PUT MY
>HEADER ON IT AND SENT IT TO AOL 'CAUSE HE THOUGHT WE WOULDN'T FIND OUT ABOUT
>IT WITH AOL'S SECURITY POLICY--- VERY LOW ISN'T IT??
>AT  THE  VERY LEAST I  *POSTED*  MY
>COMPLAINT ABOUT ANTI-SEMITE PRUSS WITH A "CC: " FOR  _ALL_   ANT
I-SEMITES AND SOVIETS TO SEE
>AND I USED HIS *ENTIRE* POST.  I WOULD NEVER SUBSTITUTE HEADERS AND SEND THAT 
HATE MESSAGE TO AOL LIKE
>VOROBIEFF DID TO ME.
>SO NOW I AM LIKE A CHECHEN - AGAINST THE HORDE, CLINTON ADMINISTRATION, DEVIAN
TS, SOCIALISTS, REVANCHIST
>SOVOKS AND
>OTHER RIFF RAFF.
>....<skip>
>END

>The below post  is by  the anti-Semite,  pro- Russian expansionist and fellow 
soviet ideologue, that
>Vorobieff felt he needed to protect and defend (and even generously, gave me c
redit for Pruss posting when
>he skulked and slunk  around,  when western eyes werent watching to AOL)

> (Whose contents Vorobieff attributed to me!) :

>From:  (dmitry pruss)
>Sender:  (AMDS Postmaster)
>Organization: National Institutes of Health, Bethesda, MD, 20892
>..........................................Dimitry Pruss of N.I.H., writes:

>Subject: Re: Could Russia learn from Germany? (was: Ivangorod/Jaanilinn and
>Petseri/Petshory)
>From:  (dmitry pruss)
>Date: Sat, 24 Sep 1994 19:30:32 GMT
>Message-ID: >

>In article >  (Gustav Akk)
>writes:
>>  Or in other words: if one massacres Jews he is not right, and
>>  if one builds them a monument - he is not right either.
>>  Makes you wonder what do they want....

>Well you know if you ask 3 Jews a question, you'll end up with 4 opinions,
>at least 3 of them being diametrally opposite. If that makes you
>uncomfortable, then there's a patented way to make them feel the same: to
>get rid of them. Monument-building is optional.

>----------------------- Headers -----------------------
>Newsgroups: soc.culture.baltics
>Path: newsbf01.news.aol.com!newstf01.cr1.aol.com!uunet!nih-csl!pruss
>From:  (dmitry pruss)
>Subject: Re: Could Russia learn from Germany? (was: Ivangorod/Jaanilinn and
>Petseri/Petshory)
>Message-ID: >
>Sender:  (AMDS Postmaster)
>Organization: National Institutes of Health, Bethesda, MD, 20892
>References: >
> >
>Date: Sat, 24 Sep 1994 19:30:32 GMT
>Lines: 9
>......................END FROM N.I.H.........................


>Deny that you went quietly and  sneaked around like the soviet scumbag you are
>to AOL  and falsified headers you scumbag... you never even mentioned going to
 AOL
>at all did you?
> LOYAL  HOMO SOVIETICUS  OF HONOR ,
>THE SWORD AND THE SHIELD
>OF  THE SOVIET UNION,  EH?

> DID YOU GO TO AOL OR NOT?

>ANSWER ME AND EVERYONE HERE IN PRINT YOU TREACHEROUS, DECEITFUL, SOVIET!!
>YES ?
>NO ?
>YOU HAVE MY WESTERN COMMAND: SAY IT IN PRINT AND POST IT YOU  LYING , STUKACH 
!


>MANY TIMES IN FACT.....quietly you crept....... step by Mongol step....  "no o
ne will find out,"
>you thought.... "I can go do my little talk about being forthright, justice,  
my soviet honor and pride
> and no one will ever find out as I slink, slither and skulk about.... step by
 soviet step....when western
>eyes are not looking and they  are not at all likely to find out with AOLs  o
fficial policy  of not
>revealing who
>said what or what they wrote, eh?" Cunning, gutless little Pidor Vorobief.....
..turd.

>                               YOU ARE SOVIET  "BYDLO" SCUM !
>                      YOU EVEN INFORMED ON YOUR FRIENDS IN SOVOK BEFORE THE FA
LL OF  EMPIRE,
>                               IN THE DAYS WHEN YOU HAD HAIR.....
>                  GOD PUNISHED YOU BY MAKING YOUR RATTY SOVIET HAIR FALL OUT !


>DIDNT YOU BOAST THAT YOU WOULD GET ME AND EVERY  ANTI-COMMUNIST, ANTI-SOVIET,
>          PRO INDEPENDENCE, HUMAN-RIGHTS POSTER , OFF THE NET YOU SNEAKING,  T
WO-FACED STUKACH SHIT ?


>HOW COME YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT PRO-SOVIET RUSSIAN EXPANSIONISTS, ANTI-SEM
ITES
>LIKE  DIMITRY PRUSS,  VLADIMIR  SOROKIN   AND OTHER  SOVIET LOYALISTS CAN POST
 AND INDEED FLOOD
>EAST EUROPEAN SOC.CULTURE GROUPS WITH OFFICIAL RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT  TASS NEWSPA
PER  PROPAGANDA REPORTS? THEY
>ARE EASILY FOUND ELSEWHERE WITHOUT BEING RUBBED IN CERTAIN
>SOC.CULTURE GROUPS FACES AND MONITORS CONTINUOUSLY...

>DESPITE MEMBERS PROTESTS THAT IT IS INAPPROPRIATE AND THEY DONT WANT RUSSIAN
 LANGUAGE REPORTS
>OR  TO HEAR ABOUT HOW THEIR NATIONS SHOULD GO BACK TO  REJOIN MOTHER  RUSSIA  
OR LEARN, TO BE  *VERY
>CAREFUL*
>OF  NOT OFFENDING RUSSIAN  INTERESTS IN THAT REGION.....
>PIDOR  VOROBEEF  AND OTHER DIE HARD SOVIETS LOUDLY SAY
>THEY HAVE AS MUCH RIGHT TO POST AS "MAKE MONEY FAST"  CON ARTISTS DO.
>THEN THEY CROSS-POST THAT TO SOC.CULTURE SOVIET  &  RUSSIAN TO BRING IN MORE H
ORDES.....
>ITS  NOT A QUESTION OF CENSORSHIP, THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS THAT ITS INAPPR
OPRIATE, PERIOD.

>WHEREVER ANTI- INDEPENDENCE,  PRO-SOVIET PROPAGANDA THEY CHOOSE TO PUT ON THE 
EAST EUROPEAN  GROUPS UNDER
>"FREEDOM OF SPEECH" (USING GOV. COMPUTERS, ON PAID  STATE OR  FED. SALARY TIME
) IS OK,

> JUST DONT PROTEST  THEIR HISTORICAL REVISIONISM OR ANYTHING SOVIET.....

>NOW PIDOR  VOROBIEF  WANTS TO "MODERATE" AND CENSOR  SOC.CULTURE. SOVIET AND S
OC.CULTURE.RUSSIAN GROUPS..!!
>FROM UNCLEAN WESTERN INFLUENCES....?
>WHO DOES HE WORK FOR REALLY ?

>THE  STATE OF OHIO  AT:  lehigh.edu  ?

>                                                            ALEXPLORE

The target group should not br definitely soc.culture.czecho-slovak.
We have enough of our own problems.
vlad

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